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today's thoughts dorian, big 10, etc...


  • 1, i'm super happy that we landed johnson. i wanted him the most of all the visits this past weekend although obviously,
    every kid was a huge talent and we need them all plus more. o-line is our biggest need in my position and a talent like this
    is certainly a great step in the right direction.

    2. living in big ten country here in ohio, i can tell you that every fan i talked to, and i know a lot of diehard ohio state
    and michigan fans and none of them are happy about the big ten going after maryland and rutgers. they basically do not think either school adds anything in football or basketball and they all said it just waters down the conference.
    one big osu booster told me that the big ten should have got pitt and syracuse when they had the chance.
    rutgers academics dont seem to fit the big ten profile either.

    3. as for pitt...i think the ACC is a great fit for the style of pitt's play and their tradion and history.
    if you think about it, alot of pitt's deep history in football includes games against clemson, florida state, georgia tech, north carolina, miami, vt , nc state and others. add in notre dame, and its a very good fit.

    4. the only negative about maryland leaving is i saw them as a win in football and bastball when we played them most years,
    so you never like to loose the soft touch type teams while you are rebuilding.

    go panthers!
    brian

    Ironworks

  • Ironworks said...

    you never like to lose the soft touch type teams while you are rebuilding.

    go panthers! brian

    nice .. Brian's keepin' it real .. eff the terps.

    Pitt0008mmd

  • Ironworks said...

    1, i'm super happy that we landed johnson. i wanted him the most of all the visits this past weekend although obviously, every kid was a huge talent and we need them all plus more. o-line is our biggest need in my position and a talent like this is certainly a great step in the right direction.

    2. living in big ten country here in ohio, i can tell you that every fan i talked to, and i know a lot of diehard ohio state and michigan fans and none of them are happy about the big ten going after maryland and rutgers. they basically do not think either school adds anything in football or basketball and they all said it just waters down the conference. one big osu booster told me that the big ten should have got pitt and syracuse when they had the chance. rutgers academics dont seem to fit the big ten profile either.

    3. as for pitt...i think the ACC is a great fit for the style of pitt's play and their tradion and history. if you think about it, alot of pitt's deep history in football includes games against clemson, florida state, georgia tech, north carolina, miami, vt , nc state and others. add in notre dame, and its a very good fit.

    4. the only negative about maryland leaving is i saw them as a win in football and bastball when we played them most years, so you never like to loose the soft touch type teams while you are rebuilding.

    go panthers! brian

    Rutgers institutional profile and academics actually fits perfectly with the Big 10. That said, I really hate their campus the way it is split in three parts. Just horrible. But congrats to them. I wanted the ACC to grab them back when we were invited and they dropped the ball, IMO, not that it might have prevented them from going to the B10 anyway. Has there been any school in the country that has improved their position in the world of sports in the last decade more than Rutgers? From laughing stock to 9-1 with an greatly expanded stadium and a B10 invite in hand.

    The other negative about MD leaving is that they were the closest conference school to Pitt. It was a school in an area with the largest and most active alumni club outside of Pittsburgh, a school that Pitt fans would have traveled well to, and one we could have easily bused athletes to. The next closest schools are 5.5 hours or more away. They were going to be one of our two home-and-home basketball rivals and would have been a draw at the Pete. Pitt may be losing more than anyone with this. Here's hoping that if UL or UConn get the nod, they fill in UMD's place on our hoops schedule.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by CrazyPaco on 11/19/2012 at 9:06 PM

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  • do we really want to get back to playing uconn and louisville in football? I thought that's why we left the Big East?
    so fans could see Miami and Florida State, etc come to Heinz Field, not Uconn and Louisville?
    (again, not that Pitt has been lighting it up lately in football)

    Steve Flinn

  • Steve Flinn said...

    do we really want to get back to playing uconn and louisville in football? I thought that's why we left the Big East? so fans could see Miami and Florida State, etc come to Heinz Field, not Uconn and Louisville? (again, not that Pitt has been lighting it up lately in football)

    We'll play who the ACC tells us to, and we'll grin. Seriously, playing UL isn't any different than playing MD in football, just not as good geographically. UConn, well, we'll see. We play who we're given. Such is our fate.

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  • Steve Flinn said...

    do we really want to get back to playing uconn and louisville in football? I thought that's why we left the Big East? so fans could see Miami and Florida State, etc come to Heinz Field, not Uconn and Louisville? (again, not that Pitt has been lighting it up lately in football)

    Just be happy we arent playing DePaul, Seton Hall or Providence anymore. I agree about UCONN (I personally can't see the ACC adding another hoops school).....but we should still be giddy about being in the ACC. Its going to be fine.

    curtismartinfan

  • If I had my choice, I'd choose Navy to replace Md. Its an even-up swap market-wise. Navy has as much cache' as Md which is to say they both aren't very competitive but they have name recognition. That is the perfect school for the ACC. They don't need a heavy hitter of a fb program. They need a tomato can that can be an easy win for a VaTech or FSU/Clemson. Strong conferences don't just have heavies, they have bad teams that atleast have some type of interest about them and they win OOC. Navy could be a team that goes 2-6 in conference every year but gous 4-0 against Army/VMI and whoever else they can schedule.

    Louisville is OK too. I've always liked them. UConn is kinda boring but as a fan of Pitt, who am I to judge.

    For once I agree with OSU fans. This move will hurt the B10 brand. If the vehicle for media revenues moves to ala carte' as some have suggested, the BIG is a mess.

    rfalcone

  • MD and RU to the Big Ten will impact PITT's East coast recruiting also. PSU will take the bigger hit but PITT will feel it also.

    rkohberger

  • rkohberger said...

    MD and RU to the Big Ten will impact PITT's East coast recruiting also. PSU will take the bigger hit but PITT will feel it also.

    Maybe. But you still have to win Reed. Just like when WVU was moving to the SEC (lol) and then to the Big 12. There are the Indiana's and Minnesota's of the world too.

    We really didn't get the jump in recruiting by going to the ACC that we thought. Oh sure, we now have landed DJ, and looks like possibly Foster and Boyd but not one of them cited Pitt to the ACC as a reason.

    Rutgers definitely has something to sell now...but they were doing fairly well recruiting wise anyway. But a few 5-7 seasons, and they will fade back to being Rutgers. Maryland's excuses are entirely their own.

    owtahear

  • owtahear said...

    Maybe. But you still have to win Reed. Just like when WVU was moving to the SEC (lol) and then to the Big 12. There are the Indiana's and Minnesota's of the world too.

    We really didn't get the jump in recruiting by going to the ACC that we thought. Oh sure, we now have landed DJ, and looks like possibly Foster and Boyd but not one of them cited Pitt to the ACC as a reason.

    Rutgers definitely has something to sell now...but they were doing fairly well recruiting wise anyway. But a few 5-7 seasons, and they will fade back to being Rutgers. Maryland's excuses are entirely their own.

    We will see how well they do without Hafley recruiting. This year's team has a ton of Hafley recruits.As to the ACC, it is up to Pitt to finally step up to the plate in football and show that we can bring something to the table which we haven't done for 25 years.

    pittmaninoc