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QB situation - Pitt vs. PSU

  • Texas Lion said...

    My fault, thought you were calling me stupid.

    No not at all. I didn't realize you were referring to me using the word stupid. It was directed at psu in general and the whole scandal in particular. Post away my friend.

    waltspappy

  • To my PItt Bretheren, where have we heard that before.....ie. only installed 10% of the offense.........Hint.......dream jobber.........

    I dont think Bob is quite as bad as the Fraud but I do think the cat doesnt understand the college game and is going to make the fatal mistake of trying to install an offense that is way too complicated for the College gane and will have to dumb it down to the point where its vanilla................think Pitt 2011

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  • BigNick80 said...

    To my PItt Bretheren, where have we heard that before.....ie. only installed 10% of the offense.........Hint.......dream jobber.........

    I dont think Bob is quite as bad as the Fraud but I do think the cat doesnt understand the college game and is going to make the fatal mistake of trying to install an offense that is way too complicated for the College gane and will have to dumb it down to the point where its vanilla................think Pitt 2011

    He was a college coach for 13 years before he went to New England. I am worried about the offense being too complicated as well, but he does understand the college game and the time constraints that come with it.

    I think that O'Brien is going to have to lean more on the run game than he wants. We will see how long it takes for him to make adjustments.

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  • Wanny was in college for a while and then went to the pros where football was a full time job, and when he came back to college it took him a while to get acclimated to the game. I wonder if the PSU players will have enough time to learn all his plays??

    Interesting comment in the Trib today though...it said that the 3 QB's are "sticking around during the summer to continue to learn the offense and compete against one another." - are they allowed to do that? Heck, why isn't Voytik coming in during the summer and learning the entire Pitt offense too then?? I thought they had limits on how much time they can practice.

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  • BurghGuy68 said...

    Wanny was in college for a while and then went to the pros where football was a full time job, and when he came back to college it took him a while to get acclimated to the game. I wonder if the PSU players will have enough time to learn all his plays??

    Interesting comment in the Trib today though...it said that the 3 QB's are "sticking around during the summer to continue to learn the offense and compete against one another." - are they allowed to do that? Heck, why isn't Voytik coming in during the summer and learning the entire Pitt offense too then?? I thought they had limits on how much time they can practice.

    They can do that as long as the coaches aren't present.

    When kids do this, they usually have a couple captains run unofficial and informal practices which usually just involves skill players.

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  • Texas Lion said...

    We weren't his first choice, he wanted an NFL job more than anything. Once Jacksonville dropped him, he took our position because we were the only other HC opportunity he had at the time. He also wasn't our first choice as a HC, and was more of a contingency plan for if other candidates fell through. Joyner put is in a really bad spot because he was too stubborn in contract negotiations, so we hired O'Brien because he burned bridges with every other candidate we had higher. Because of this, I don't think he will have a long leash in terms of failure.

    If he is successful, I think he will leave for the first NFL job that comes and offers. If he isn't successful, he'll be here to ride out the storm from the scandal and the administration will fire him and go back to try to hire a better coach. If he is average I still think he doesn't come back, because we will move on to other coaches.

    I don't know how successful he will be, honestly, but the opportunity is certainly there. Our division is the weaker of the two in the B1G, and Wisconsin is going back down now that they lost Chryst and their great QB. We'll just have to see how quickly the OLine improves and whether or not Roof can keep up the defensive success that Bradley established.

    I completely agree with the Bill O'Brien assessment.

    If winning was easy even losers would do it.

    Lang06

  • Anybody take a look at he ND QB fiasco?

    Tommy Reese looks like complete garbage, Hendrix looked pretty bad and Golson a freshman is going to probably win that job. Their QB's are a turnover machine.

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  • PhPanther1 said...

    Anybody take a look at he ND QB fiasco?

    Tommy Reese looks like complete garbage, Hendrix looked pretty bad and Golson a freshman is going to probably win that job. Their QB's are a turnover machine.

    Didn't Malik Zaire commit to ND? We wanted this dual threat QB. He may get a chance to play as a Freshman if the rest stink.

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  • getmyjive11 said...

    He was a college coach for 13 years before he went to New England. I am worried about the offense being too complicated as well, but he does understand the college game and the time constraints that come with it.

    I think that O'Brien is going to have to lean more on the run game than he wants. We will see how long it takes for him to make adjustments.

    his record as a college coach was less than impressive. The guys only claim to fame is that he was Tom Brady's ball boy.

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  • Lang06 said...

    I completely agree with the Bill O'Brien assessment.

    He's between a rock and a hard place anyway given the circumstances he's inherited, as would any HC following Joe Paterno. Even though I think you guys will win games this year and do well, if I was the AD I'd tell O'Brien "Just recruit kids that won't give us any trouble.".

    I know the PSU fans think that's always the case anyway but it isn't... but now is not the time for any off the fields problems - the football will take care of itself.

    rkohberger

  • waltspappy said...

    So 19 of 42 for 196 yards 2 touchdowns and 5 interceptions. Those are Tiny's numbers for crying out loud.

    O'Brien will be cheating his butt off in a couple of years. If there's still a football program up there.

    Sunseri really doesn't throw many INTs for the number of passes he attempts each season, 2.8% (2011) and 2.6% (2010) are very good ratios.

    Compare that with Tyler Palko's 2.3%, Bill Stull's 2.6% and Dan Marino's 5.73% (which is terrible BTW). Sunseri has a lot of problems, INTs aren't at the top of the list.

    I just put that up there because I know you are a big Sunseri fan.

    rkohberger

  • rkohberger said...

    Sunseri really doesn't throw many INTs for the number of passes he attempts each season, 2.8% (2011) and 2.6% (2010) are very good ratios.

    Compare that with Tyler Palko's 2.3%, Bill Stull's 2.6% and Dan Marino's 5.73% (which is terrible BTW). Sunseri has a lot of problems, INTs aren't at the top of the list.

    I just put that up there because I know you are a big Sunseri fan.

    Yeah hard to throw interceptions when you dont throw the ball unless the receiver is wide open. TIno cant throw to what he cant see.

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  • BigNick80 said...

    Yeah hard to throw interceptions when you dont throw the ball unless the receiver is wide open. TIno cant throw to what he cant see.

    There is that, he doesn't thread the needle much, does he?

    I think Sunseri did pretty well in rolling out and passing in 2010, if you exclude the Utah game. That tanked in 2011 though.

    Maybe if we have Sunseri stand on Myers' shoulders he'd have a better sight line.

    rkohberger

  • rkohberger said...

    I know the PSU fans think that's always the case anyway but it isn't... but now is not the time for any off the fields problems - the football will take care of itself.

    Not all PSU fans think that, but it's not uncommon for any fanbase to think highly of their players.

    The AD can say all he wants, but O'Brien will recruit the types of player he wants, even some that come with baggage.

    There was already at least one issue that came up recently and that player got the boot. These things happen and happen everywhere.

    If winning was easy even losers would do it.

    Lang06

  • rkohberger said...

    There is that, he doesn't thread the needle much, does he?

    I think Sunseri did pretty well in rolling out and passing in 2010, if you exclude the Utah game. That tanked in 2011 though.

    Maybe if we have Sunseri stand on Myers' shoulders he'd have a better sight line.

    How small is Sunseri? I saw some of the spring game and he didn't look too small.

    I may be wrong though, because I just had it on in the background.

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