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The fact that Hugh Green didn't get it as a dominant defender is a main reason I don't want him to win this. However, his background "inspirational" story might put him over the top.

However, he was INVISIBLE against Pitt this season. Remember the one bad game that Fitz had vs. Miami which knocked him out of the running for the Heisman? Same should apply to T'eo. I'm sure they're using this against Klein and his one bad game.

Teo is good, let's not say he sucks and didn't help ND win a lot........but I agree, he's not the best player in the country, which is what the award is. He won the LB award and he deserved it. Save the Heisman for the best player.......Manziel.

Manziel will win 2 Heismans.

The rock knows. It was the same story in the Presidential election. At a time when all the news stations and polls said it was a dead heat, the Vegas line was Obama-360, Romney +260. Rock----It sounds like you've been around the block. I've been around the block too. It's because I can't remember where I live.

Straw poll says Johnny Football ... chill. I do hope Bammer rolles'm.

while I don't think Teo should win the Heisman, you guys need to stop with the tackle/tackle for loss rankings. ND has the 6th rated defense in the country which means their defense was excellent with getting the other teams offenses off the field. Less time on the field will mean less tackles and tackles for loss for a guy like Teo. I bet many of the LBs that are higher on the tackles list probably played 100-200 more defensive snaps than Teo did this season. Plus, Teo plays on a team that has multiple good players on their defense. I've seen LBs get an insane amount of tackles because they are about the only decent player on their teams defense(like the BC LB last year).

I've gotta go with Nick on this one.

Unfortunately, perception may be reality this year, because I can see a lot of the goof balls who vote for this pick the sad story.

Funny how you throw a back handed insult to your own team(if Teo can't even have a good game against Pitt, then he can't be any good). Heisman voters like to give the trophy to the player that showed up in big games. Pitt was 6-6 this year so they were not considered a big game for ND so it's irrelevant what Teo did or did not do versus Pitt.

Once again great players who win awards dominate at their position and its relfected in the stats. Teo isnt even in the top 10 at his position. And yes Pitts OL was not that good this year so Teo should have been more active that game. NOt saying he needed to be the stat leader but a MLB in a 4-3 defense who is the alledgedly the best player at his position should have had far more tackles than he had. Big time players make plays and it should be reflected in the stats that is unless you play for a hype machine and have a sad story to tell.

Greatest defender to ever play vouches for him...

What do you think of Manti Te'o?

"I think he's an incredible athlete. He's the ringleader of a great defense. Everything he does, such as how he makes his checks makes me think he really understands the game, and that he studies film and his opponents a lot. That's very rare. Still, I would've liked to have seen him have that same kind of productivity his junior, sophomore and freshman years."

Does he deserve the Heisman?

"I think he controls the game. I think he's worthy. We'll see if the scenario works out. I wish Te'o could be in a different situation because people really don't recognize defenders and their talents enough. If they did, I think he would win the Heisman."

-Hugh Green

What did you expect Green to say? Hes not going to say the kid is not deserving and having been screwed out of a Heisman himself, he'd have made similar comments about any defensive guy up for the award.

Teo wont be the first lb drafted and he may not even be a first round pick..Once again if he were not on TV every week and didnt play for ND people would be saying TEo who.

But then again TIno was supposed to be all BE and make a NFL roster/ LOL

BTW, who said Tino was a lock to make an NFL roster?

Kijana is just sore about Todd "The Odd" Blackledge not getting the recognition he deserved. Another PSU joke- taken with the #7 pick in the first round while Danny Mia Marino was taken 25th. How's Blah Thomas doing? He was quoted the other day at Safeway------"Paper or plastic".