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They hired Mike Haywood
Shruggs. No way. In Alabama, the Tide is the Steelers. In Florida, the Gators and Seminoles are more popular than the Jags, Dolphins or Buccaneers. In Georgia, UGa reigns over the Falcons. Nebraska? Oklahoma? Pretty much any area that was colored RED during the last presidential election gravitates more towards college football in popularity. It is their pro team. If you want to call a sports team a "civic treasure", for the lack of a better term, but something that pulls together a region and gives them name identity, well in many areas, those college teams are their Steelers, Cowboys and Packers.
I think alot of Pitt fans because living or growing up here, with its Steeler and pro team domination doesn't understand this.
I don't know what you're refuting.
They need to bring in an asst. who can bring in the recruits.
Your first sentence is complete hogwash and your last sentence still isn't clever or funny
I don't understand anyone who thinks Pitt isn't a top destination job. Even Paul Evans could recruit top-level talent at Pitt w/ the worst facilities in the country! brothers like the city - it's an easy sell.
1986-87 was different for a lot of reasons...
1) The Big East was far and away the most prominently televised conference. College basketball wasn't on TV as much, but the BE ruled the airwaves of ESPN and northeast regional syndicated TV.
2) Facilities weren't as big of a deal back then....but by the end of the decade we were losing recruits because of Fitzgerald Field House. The Big East was at its height of power and was able to trump all.
3) Calipari was recruiting for Paul Evans. He was able to recruit to UMass too.... Pitt hasn't had a recruiter on staff like Calipari since.
Today, Pitt is a good job, but not a top destination. It is a good job because 1) The Pete 2) The ACC 3) 4) Dixon has made it a nationally respected program 4) lack of pressure to win compared to blue blood programs. It is a bad job because 1) No recruiting back yard 2) Little history compared to blue bloods like UNC, Duke, SU. 3) Administrative stability questions 4) Expectations of yearly NCAA appearances may be unreasonable
This post was edited by CrazyPaco 15 months ago
1. no one has ever had a recruiter like calipari since he left. even kentucky with pitino wasn't that high; he's a statistical outlier.
2. you're too young to know about the 80's. it wasn't the big east only on the weekends. you'd watch some espn on the weekdays; but the weekends were the big draws. mix of big east, sec and big 10. if you were lucky, you got a pac 10 game. there were even swc and big8. i wouldn't say one conference ruled the airwaves; not even close.
No I'm not.
Big Monday. ACC/Big East Wednesday. Big East on CBS. Occasionally on NBC. Big East Television Network with Mike Gorman on weekdays and Saturday in syndication. Few to no other conferences (except ACC with Jefferson Pilot) had similar syndicated networks. On cable in Altoona, there'd be 3 Big East Conference games on some days....and that was when there were only 9 teams. Every Big East Conference game was broadcast somewhere. CBS, ESPN, WPIX? out of NYC was a superstation on cable all over the northeast and regularly showed SJU. In Altoona (and Pittsburgh) WTAE showed all the Big East Network Pitt games. No other conference came remotely close. Statistics on broadcasts back then backed that up too.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by CrazyPaco 15 months ago
Problem is the results on the field don't equal that so-called commitment to sports.
Dixon's team is no longer what it once was - all the other sports sans Wrestling and possibly T&F are in bad shape or mediocre (including sadly Football).
and worst of all, Nordy wasted over $3MM (which Pitt doesn't have) on Stevie P in salary. So where's the accountability for all those issues?
I watched like the last 5 minutes of the wisconsin OSU game and couldn't get over the fact at how similar Bo Ryan and Jamie Dixon are. Win a lot of games, compete for conference titles, win a game or 2 in the tourny and play your system with your players.
Fitzgerald was never an asset and was always bad for recruiting. Playing big games at the Civic Arena sucked (worse than FB playing at Heinz). Although, I agree with the BlackMan that the city certainly helps the BB team.
In fairness, and I know it was pre-Paul Evans, but Cal didn't recruit Charles Smith, Curtis Aiken, Jerome Lane, or Demetrious Gore. He did well enough with Miller, Matthews, Martin, Porter, and Shorter though. Evans walked into a pretty good group of talent left by Chipman.
Those groups of players that Pitt ran through in the Mid-late 80s far surpass anything that has been recruited since. It's a shame that Evans wasn't a very good coach and Willard turned out to be worse.
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