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Reed. My Dear Friend. Please give up the defending of sp. Let's hope there is a change of the guard very soon. This latest hire 3 months later, and very bad, isn't even worth the word pathetic.
My post wasn't about SP nor was it defending him. It was about what the PITT football program has been for decades and what the administration (anyone in the AD's position) has to do to make the program more attractive to the general population..
But what do you disagree with in my post? Insert "the AD" and "the Chancellor" as generic terms for those two names and my post remains exactly the same. I was coming from the POV that a school like PITT has to attract more people than just alumni and students... that was the subject of my post - not Pederson.
BTW - I'd like for you to find some posts of mine defending SP... not ones where you infer that I'm defending him. I would have absolutely no problem if he was fired tomorrow. Just because I don't jump up and down criticizing SP doesn't mean I defend him or even want him to remain in the position. I think he's a buffoon actually.
I don't post about SP's work because truth be told I really don't know how detailed his job actually is. We all look at it through the football-centric lens but I have no idea if he's done well or not in the other aspects of the job. The BB team is successful, the facilities are expanding, etc...Is that in part because of him or not? I truly don't know what the rest of the PITT administration, including the Chancellor, think about his effectiveness.
I am way more concerned about the football program alone and the principals involved with that. IMO you just cannot look at the history of the program from 1983 to today and lay all the blame at any of the AD's feet. Just look at Cas Myslinski who was the AD when I was at PITT. Everyone hates him for not keeping Sherrill but few credit him for bringing the football program back from the dead by hiring both Majors and then Sherrill. He was the AD through PITT football's finest modern period but to PITT fans his name is mud.
As far as SP being fired after Nordenberg retires... I don't know if it is as much of a lock as some fans do and that has nothing to do with SP himself. A new chancellor might not be even as supportive of the football program or the rest of the athletic department as Nordenberg has been. We could get a real egghead who doesn't give a crap in that direction and wants to maintain the status quo or even go backwards.
It isn't like the BoT and the faculty are crazy supporters of the football program like at some others schools. They may well not emphasize athletics in their chancellor search either.
Anyway - I don't defend SP because I don't care about him. However, I also don't believe that the football program is going to magically become better by the subtraction of any one person involved with it.
This post was edited by rkohberger 14 months ago
Walt's - are you actually saying that the Paul Chryst hiring is 'beyond pathetic?' Not sure what you mean by "latest hire"
Shruggs - one thing I think is missed when we discuss whether or not PITT should build an on-campus stadium is that... wait for it... if we do then that pretty much eliminates the option of PITT downgrading its football program for the next 40+ years.
PITT came very close to doing so in the late 1960s before Majors was hired (and PITT stadium had been paid off for a long time and was nearing it's later years of existence) ... and before that when Sutherland was running the program and Chancellor Bowman wanted less emphasis on football and more on academics. The Steelers were using Forbes Field and PITT stadium then so the stadium could still bring some monies in even if PITT football didn't get the big crowds.
There, that should stir the pot a bit.
Oh man. You're bringing your A game---can you keep this up all day? I've got a lot to write but the pot cannot go unstirred...
Stevie P will be pushed out the door regardless of whether the new Chancellor loves football or not. There's just way too much hatred for the guy at Pitt to stick around post-Nordy.
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