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I don't know what their salary expectations would be but Pitt plays pretty competitively for their coordinators. Not SEC obviously but still alot.
i would like the orlando or partridge hire. With both you bring good coaching and great recruiting ties in florida. both are familiar with this area also. like i said, tomsula isnt happening. hes been in discussions for nfl head coaching jobs and now hell be a dc at pitt? that makes zero sense.
also, i raise this question - does it matter what scheme the new dc runs? if you hire a guy who runs a 3-4, it is yet another scheme change and that just cant be good. However, i would argue that pitt has good personnel for the 3-4. it would mask the depth issues on the defensive line and pitt has the type of rangy athletes at linebacker for that style of play. On the other hand, if you stick with a 4-3 there is continuity but there will still be questions about the defensive line depth in the immediate future.
I know it would mean some upheaval, but I'd love to see Pitt go to a 3-4 defense. To me, it just makes so much sense in college ball. It's hard to find those 6-5, 250 - 260 pounders who are quick enough to be dominant defensive ends. Easier to find the 6-3, 220 to 240 pounders who can play the 4 linebacker positions - there's just lots more of the guys.
Look at this season, Pitt had little pass rush from it's defensive ends.
The 3-4 seems like a good way to get more speed on the field and a good way to try to create confusion for the opposing OL on who the 4th rusher will be...
While I agree IM not sure (and IM not saying you indicated this) that it says anythng negative if they dont hire either guy. It may just be that DC at pitt is not in their career goals as a next step. If the issue was/is money for sure it would be a negative in my mind anyway. BUt I doubt the truth would ever come out in that case as some here think Pitt is not cheap, even though the evidence speaks otherwise.
A "Real PITT MAN"............get off my porch!
If you have to choose between Orlando and Partridge, then Orlando is better. He has a ton of experience as DC and has done a good job.
Completely agree. Hire T. Austin and pay him what he's worth or continue to be mediocre.
What exactly has Austin does as a defensive coordinator as a recruiter that has PITT fans clamming at the bit to get him? I've always been puzzled by it.
I also find it hilarious that one thinks he wouldn't take a DC job at the college level because he thinks he should be a head coach. How often do you see coaches w/ 99% of their experience as a DB's coach become a BCS HC? The guy has 1 year as a DC on a 8-5 team. He'll never get a HC job if he doesn't put some time in as a coordinator or go to the lower level (FCS/D2) and become a HC.
I'd rather look at:
It isn't hard to find CFB DL who can run. DW found them all the time, the overwhelming majority of them weren't more than a 3 star athlete. We were top 5 in sacks several times under his tenure.
You can create as much or more confusion with a 4-3 as you can w/ any other kind of defense - see Bud Foster's reign as an example.
The reason I don't like the 3-4 you see on Sundays in CFB, is to make really effective it needs STUD talent (Alabama/UVA under Groh) or a great deal of complexity (BAMA). A. We will never recruit nor have the coaching taent that Saban has under his disposal. B. CFBers have nowhere near the time to make this defense what you're imagining based on the Steelers/Texans/49ers in terms of complexity. Think about it, it usually takes one LeBeau's defenders 3 years before he can really excel in the defense. CFB can't work on that time scale. Dumbing down the 3-4 is just dumb imo.
There is a reason only Bama runs this and the rest of the SEC doesn't. Saban knows the defense inside and out.
I agree with steels post. Moreover take a look at the ny giants. They have been effective on defense even though they have average to below average linebackers and secondary. If we can recruit linemen to get after the passer we can have an effective defense.
I'd love Fickell, but how would that be possible? No way Pitt could pay what O$U does let alone the prestige factor.
Importantly, do we know if Huxtable is taking any people with him? House has been an important foot-soldier on the recruiting front of late.
Austin was a dynamite recruiter at michigan...are you serious?
So...it's hilarious to think that Austin would be a good dc (was good enough for Meyer, who dOes not employ Coaches who can't recruit) but sane to think pitt could hire fickell away from osu? This is crazy talk.
I thought Fickell was fired? I guess he was not.
In terms of Austin recruiting who was he responsible for? I know he landed Marlin Jackson and Dan Smeilis out of WPA and bridged the gap for Breaston. Who else was he responsible for? I know he wasn't responsible for the EPA guys. I'm asking an honest question. What was his territory with the Wolverines?
Austin was a fabulous recruiter at Michigan, He would just sashee (no idea how to really spell this word) into Western PA and pluck out whoever Michigan wanted, lIke Steve Breaston and Marlon Jackson, did he recruit Ryan Mundy too?
Pitt fans are always clamoring for a PItt guy too.
I agree, why even mention people that are so out of the question. That's like saying, "How about Dick Lebeau? He wouldn't even have to leave the building?"
Michigan had a boatload of offers to WPA guys during Austin's tenure that didn't end up at Michigan. So, I'm not sure they plucked whomever they wanted.
I'm not sure what his territory was besides WPA but landing 2 prominent players in 4 years out of WPA isn't what I call killing it. Now if he had some other territory like Eastern Ohio and was getting great players too, than I'd go back on my statement.
I think he probably is a fine recruiter, but recruiting at Michigan who basically selects and not recruits is much different than having to sell 30-40k, no conference championships, no bcs wins, no NC's in 36 years, etc etc.
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