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I've never heard that story Reed. I've only read where sp is hated and really not welcomed in the Lincoln area. Seriously.
From what I heard, Hux was a screamer and PC likes less vocal teachers. So it was pretty much agreed that they would go separate ways after the season.
On his first or second day back on the job. That extension was a Nordy move all the way. Then DW had zero respect for SP and the power struggles began.
Oh yes, I remember. But, it's really hard to evaluate SP's hires when we explain some away---this one, or the "SP wanted Cristobal" stuff, etc. He had his most capital that day; if he was hell-bent to oust Wanny, he would have.
There is always a faction of the fan base who dislikes every coach. And sure they had lost to some rivals, but they were still 9-3 that last season.
From every report that I read, SP fired Solich against the general approval of the fan base.
When have they done anything that resembles a smart move??
You know, even the Jamie Dixon Hire was really a move that they came out smelling like a rose on but was not a very smart move at the time. just because they got incredibly lucky doenst mean it was a stroke genius on their part. As the saying goes, even a blind squirell finds an acorn once in a while
A "Real PITT MAN"............get off my porch!
Actually Solich had one more games in his first five years then Osborn did.
There was another crazy Nebraska fan in our building - who didn't play for the Huskers but traveled to all their home games (from DC!) and donated a lot of money, who said the same thing. The people in Nebraska couldn't stand losing to Texas two years in a row and getting their asses handed to them by lesser programs like Colorado and Kansas State - all on national TV.
Going 7-7 and 9-3 at Nebraska isn't tolerated like it would be at most other school. Which is the point I make when saying that PITT just isn't like programs such as Nebraska and Texas. Those schools fan bases demand winning and championship years or they want the HCs gone.
I think the firing was stupid but I'm coming at it from a PITT fan's perspective. My two Husker friends were 100% behind it though and disliked Pederson also, mainly for the crap he did there like the crap he did at PITT.
Not defending SP just pointing out that Solich's firing wasn't really a black mark on his time there.
It was really his next hire of Bill Callahan and SP's trying to change the traditions and the beloved running game into a passing game that made everyone hate him there.
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I don't know about Pederson not wanting to fire Solich. I know two guys who both played at Nebraska, one played under Solich. They all said the important backers went through Osborne. If Osborne had Solich in his good graces they (boosters) weren't going to get rid of him. Anyone remember when Pederson extended Callahan and he talked crap about Solich?
Everything that I've ever been told by guys who were in around the program during that time said that Pederson had his list of candidates the day he took the job.
If I remember correctly. The fans wanted to fire Osborne because he couldn't win the "big one." Then after many years he won a NC and all was forgiven. He became a genius over night.
Such is the life of a coach.
The difference at schools like Nebraska is that not only the fan base demands certain things (as does Pitt's) but also the BOT and administration demand results. At Pitt, the administration just doesn't care and mediocrity is fine. There has been zero commitment regarding athletics from the administration since forever. Fans can can only demand results to a point. If the powers-that-be aren't listening in simply doesn't matter. Fans can't fire anyone or spend more money for coaches. Do what? Don't give money? Pitt fans really don't when you compare them to Nebraska or OSU or PSU, for example. Pitt's administration doesn't put athletics on a pedestal like some universities. The sooner some realize this the more enjoyable being a Pitt fan will be.
Which explains why they keep firing mediocre coaches.
Well, on the flip side, they also keep firing the most successful and winning coaches. When you have a traditionally mediocre football program but have coaches who are having better than mediocre winning seasons it really doesn't make any sense to fire them.
Can you, in all seriousness, look at DW's record over his last three years and get a sense that he was fired only so that the program could get to the next level?
9-4, 10-3 & 8-5 ? 2010 was a down year and could have started a downward trend but it also may have been a blip year on a winning course. Yet we fire him because he was mediocre? Got news - as far as PITT football coaches go he was a star for PITT... as far as winning games goes.
Harris was much the same before him yet he was basically fired also.
Sorry but to buy 100% into the "Next Level" stuff is looking at the situation with an eye closed IMO. I don't regret the firings one bit but then again I don't believe the 'next level' push either.
i agree but keeping stevie p around for no reason and paying him $600K is a further kick in the groin to Pitt fans. we are wasting money we dont have on a paper pusher and we need real leadership in the athletics dept.
sadly, we are spending big money on stevie p - but its a total waste of money. nordy just doesnt get sports and how to manage them - that's the problem at pitt.
Seriously, would any of us not take the AD job at Pitt for $200k and dance and whistle your way to work every day? And we have cheese dick getting $600k to screw it all up and alienate all the former staff and players. Dixon apparently likes SP, which makes you wonder what's going through his head. Nordy is a supposedly a smart guy, but just....wow! SP makes no sense in that job. Much less getting it twice.
I agree with most of what you said. But I regret the firings. I thought they did a good job.
I'm surprised to hear that. Many head coaches like to have different personalities on their staff. The loud guys, the quiet guys, old, young etc.
A mixture like that is good. The same old same old is not so good. (all loud or all quiet)
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